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Hi everyone and welcome back. I am so excited man. I’m excited a lot. But today I’m extra excited because I have one of my brothers come from another mother here in the studio, which the studio right now is this big window overlooking my nice yard cause at the whole day, right? Yes. So beautiful man. My by was Sean Copeland who is a celebrated author, mainly social media influencer. And this brother travels around the world, literally around the world, sharing the Best Premarital Counseling Oklahoma City gospel of Jesus Christ. Wow. And you know, one thing I wanted to bring him on the show to talk about is how does he navigate the work life balance? Because right now you have a son with actually the godparents. Yeah. Aiden and you have another son. She made it in August. That is how old’s drill now.

Cyril was 10 years old.

I have another son in the womb. Yes. You don’t have a name yet.

No name yet. We actually were trying to dissolve between two names. Won’t be used. Some of your guests can give us some guidance. I’ll be great

today. I wanted to bring you on to talk about something that all of us who love our families struggle with. Yeah. That is the work life balance. Especially as somebody who loves God, loves his family. I really wanted you to speak into how do you grow a business because you are a big time social media influencer. You have access to literally millions of people every day. You’re doing Facebook, you’re doing youtube, you’re on podcast. You’re, you’re budgeting time every day to write 500 to a thousand words. You just signed two new book deals. You’re looking for a house. I mean brother you, you’ve got it going and all these different areas, then I’ll let you share. You know, how you start to navigate that situation. Cause I know a lot of you guys out there listening are like me and you struggle to find the work life balance every day. Every season’s different.

Yeah. So Shawn, thank you again so much for having me and I’m excited to be on your podcast, Bro. I love this is insanely cool. The v right here in the flesh together. Do one another one. Cause we’ve done podcasts fast. Yeah. But, uh, one of the big things I just want to stress is I’m not a subject matter expert, but it is you, the grace of God and allowing myself to be around people like you being coachable and teachable. Um, and learning to let go of things, allowing a team, a strong team around me to help guide me in deeper into leadership in deeper into, you know, doing greater things in my life, man. So

team aspect, really. That’s of, that’s biblical, isn’t it? Yeah. Yeah. Bad Company corrupts good morals. Oh yeah. That’s true. Good company promotes good morals, your values. And so for you, one of the key elements is to take away is making sure that people that you’re around are likeminded, lighthearted. Yeah. They’re going somewhere.

Uh Huh. Definitely. It over creating a culture of, um, of community but also a coacher where growth is stress. Like if we’re not moving forward, we’re taking steps to behind and yeah, it’s important, yeah. To, to live and be hungry, hungry, humble and hustle. [inaudible] hungry, humble and hustle.

That alliteration. Three ages. Come on now you’ll know what that means. Right? Let’s go. One of the things I think that a lot of us listening can really take from that is, but what about our families answer this. What about if you have a family member that is toxic and you only have a certain amount of time because you’re traveling all over your speaking, you’re writing. I mean you really are doing all these different activities that are kingdom minded, but what have you have, uh, a family member or maybe maybe you have a neighbor right there and they want to talk and maybe they’re not the best person. Yeah. You’ve got this limited time. How do you deal with that?

So that’s a great, great question. And I’ve come across this so many times in the midst of trying to get things done rather than, uh, being a son first. The one of the big things is, is I want to be faithful to God before I’m faithful to my work. That’s good. Faithful to who he is and what he’s telling me to do in a moment. So I’m willing to stop what I’m doing and connect with that person if God, if I feel the burden to do so. But if not, I do set up boundaries. There’s times where, you know, the same person comes around saying the same thing, being toxic and you have to create that, you know, hey, you know, God makes it clear. It’s important. People we, they deserve, deserve our love but not necessarily access to our hearts, not necessarily access to us fully. So long as I’m loving them taking, you know, 10 20 seconds to listen to them. I that mean that doesn’t always mean two hours, you know, and

yeah. Well you know, I this, let’s really nail this down cause I know you’ve been in, you know, doing Edmund marriage counseling, something that I’ve seen is a lot of us have struggled in the past or even in the present. Yeah. A lot of you listeners out there know this is true. How exactly do you determine, where do you allocate your time? Like is there, is there a scale that you have? Is there, is there a process that you go through because you know you’re a likable guy. I mean, if you guys saw her shot, if this was a, we had a video going, yeah, this smile that is about as big as a son of man, it just lights up the room using hyperbole here. Oh, okay. And how did you say, Hey, you’re welcome, very welcome. How do you regulate or, or moderate who did spend time with and who not to? Because we all have a certain amount of time yeah. That we have every day. We all have the Best Premarital Counseling Oklahoma City same amount of time every week. And so how do you determine who gets that time? How do you say no to lunches? How do you say no? What do you do to manage that?

Love it. So one of the things that God’s been, you know, speaking to me more about, and also he’s used you in your life and your mentorship and several others that tell me to move out of that space of people pleasing and are trying to be, you know, so you know, so available and open to everyone’s else needs where I’m making myself fall and fell on the downside. So one of the things that God’s been showing me though more of priorities, like having a structure within my life. So first and foremost, always my attention needs to be to God. Second, I need to be add here to my wife. Love my wife as Christ loved the church. So she’s going to have my attention next and then my family, my kids. And then after that it’s gonna flow. Uh, you know, people either I’m working with are doing ministry with life with and then yeah, there’s basically tears where like a more available too at this season of my life, knowing that I’m just trying to add here to the order that God’s called me to, but yet still be like, not overlook the people you put in front of me, but have a sensitive ear to what he wants me to do with them are, you know, how to cater to them and love them and serve them.


you know, you know what our Admin, marriage counseling, what I’ve discovered with a lot of people pleasers, like yourself. Yeah. Make decisions based off of fear. God Air pressure. Got It. And peer pressure. Yeah. So what happens when you make decisions off of fear and peer pressure? You’re not making them from a place of love or a place of wisdom and call it. Got It. So I think that’s really good that you’re in. I’ve seen the Best Premarital Counseling Oklahoma City evolution of you growing. Yeah. Anything of God because you can’t please God and man.

True. So true.

You try to please everybody. What happens,

man, you’ll end up failing. You’ll fill them.

Yeah, and our, and our, I know for me, our families, our faith, our finances, all of these things start to struggle. Wow. We’ve got our priorities off. Right? Got It. Yup.

I’ve seen it in my own life. I trust me all those business, man. You know what? Let me share a quick story real quick. There was a time where I got invited to go to Washington DC to go be around a whole bunch of influencers. I knew it wasn’t the greatest time, our healthiest time to do so. However, because that need to feel appreciated and accepted and to be somewhere where I’ve really felt God not wanting me to be a, because I should have been with my, you know, family. I should have been, you know, I was in a really stressful spot at work, but yet I still compromise the conviction of Stan with my family to be out there with them and I noticed it at the end. You can definitely tell how that disobedience, he really hurt my marriage. It hurt my family and also heard some of my work life stuff. So just by wanting to be having that desire, that ungodly desire to, to, to be accepted in to please the Best Premarital Counseling Oklahoma City people that I thought I need it. So it was sad though, man. That was one of the time

cost when we trade out. Yeah. It’s calling and the, what the season is. And I think one thing that you just mentioned that I can relate to a lot is when you and I hang out, I always feel motivated to chuck to really talk or the world. I’m like, why don’t I have a book read or written? Why am I not, yeah. Think to the passions that are in my heart to do things like this, podcasting or do you, some media things were awesome. We don’t, you know, in our Edmund Marriage counseling, we don’t just, if we affect people’s lives and we have, you know, hundreds of people every week live that are eternally changed. True, true. And there’s another platform that you opened my eyes to have millions of people. Wow. We could have access to video, podcasting, social media books. And so I, I have to constantly get checked and we’ll call that check.

Tanta yeah. Wife’s name, this seasons and timing. The seasons and times. I know when I started to invest in something that God’s not calling me too. Yeah. I just get super stressed out. Wow. Overwhelmed. Because I want to succeed at it. I want to nail it and I wanted to just to go over the top and make it amazing. Cause I know that people’s lives really, yeah. Feel like they may not really be, but they feel like they’re on the line. Yeah. That this material needs to get out there. And so I think even yours is a pleasing and mind is the Best Premarital Counseling Oklahoma City search for significance. Looking for ways to really change people’s lives. Got It. Make it better. Yours is pleasing. And so I think no matter where you’re from, yeah. Having a clean understanding of what boundaries mean. Yeah. How and where you’re making decisions from really will impact your life.

True. So true. So good. And I love how you said that. The things that we, so this search for significance to impact people’s lives, you see the motive behind it, the motive followed it. And even with my people pleasing the, the, the motive behind that is just wanting to, to love and serve people, meet people where they are. But the Best Premarital Counseling Oklahoma City problem is God is the decency of uh, uh, God is a god of decency, timing in order. And when we get those things out of order, we’ll find ourselves, you know, yeah. Rec and ourselves trying to please people. But it’s not like, I don’t think it’s the motive, this a bad thing. I think it’s more like it’s out of order. We need to please God and then, you know, from that people will be pleased and you know, we’ll grow in significance no matter what because we’re being led by him.

That’s good. Yeah. So we’ll give me another one. One of us. Yeah. Oh, as far as just life balance, work, life balance. So with that, um, they’re great question. I’m really trying to be more intentional with balancing my work live by setting alarms on my phone. Okay. And shutting off, putting my phone in airplane mode and getting into prayer mode. Okay. And stuff like that. There’s really, it has to be intentional in my wife always helps with that. She always speaks into their wives lives. New Word that she’s been saying lately is margin margin is going to keep saying it to you. Margin. We will do that. Let’s try and do it all yesterday. Word. Podcast. Yeah.

Meet with people and then go to this stations of the cross at this place called Henderson hills and Edmond. Gotcha. And, and we did that and I got home late because there was a line for the incense. I was crazy, like 20 minutes. It took up most of our time and I was 20 minutes late. Wow. Go pick my son up to go play. So even by the Best Premarital Counseling Oklahoma City time I called her, we were already late to him. Be Aw man. Like you always do this, you don’t leave margin. You know, not many people always do anything. True. Frustrating. If we don’t budget that time, wow. We’re not really intentional because I allowed the day to get away from me. Yeah. I can completely relate to that or that it put stress on us, put stress on them, and then it just makes it a lot more chaotic when, when in reality if we say no to some things, it opens up the door to say yes to it.

Oh that’s really good. That’s really good. And when you say yes, airplane mode, boy, that’s good stuff. Yeah, true. And when you say yes to some things, you’re saying no to a ton of other things. And I think one of the play mode and that is airplane mode. Both Sean, check this out. This morning I was driving here and I was thinking about just something great. Oh even about the timing and the schedule that we had in mind this morning. 6:00 AM meeting here that was creating space in a way. So when our families woke up, you know, they’re awake and they’re ready for the day, we’ll have that time for them. So I think even like in little moments like this where we just mindfully, you know, set our day up early that work, get that work piece out. Yup. Which this is what we do, we love, we’re passionate about this stuff and I think this opens up a way to the, you know, be mindful. There’s

two things I want to key in on that you said that I think everyone listening, including me, needs to really be intentional on. So the first one is, is to choose wisely who you surround yourself with. Don’t let proximity, your neighbors, your historical friends, your historical family, those people from your past, they may have an expiration date that to expire out. Not everybody does, but, but a lot of people do. Got It. That season’s over. And not just allowing people into your life because they ask for the Best Premarital Counseling Oklahoma City time, but being very intentional about the people that you choose to have in your very much and making sure they’re going the same direction or that you’re intentionally ministering to them and showing them love because that’s the, that’s the call of that relationship. But not having any relationships in your life that are happenstance and just there because they’re around you and demanding your time.

Yes. The other thing you said that I thought it was really good Rashawn is airplane mode. You must be intentional about what you choose to design your day with, not just allowing the flow of the day, the stressors of other people’s lives and the stressors of emails, the stressors of even good things like for you. I know when you write, you block off the airplane mode, everybody who has ever got and you just tune in to either your writing coach or whoever you’re talking to you and you write in. Just just pump that out. I think that’s a big deal because so many times, most of us present company included allow the demands of others to infiltrate the Best Premarital Counseling Oklahoma City purity of what God’s called us spaces of our life. That’s good, and then we will never be balanced because we’re allowing other people to determine what we do throughout our day because we’re just reacting, reacting, reacting.

You’re talking about starting the Best Premarital Counseling Oklahoma City day, being intentional like we did today. You probably had a town with God, I’d have to. Yeah. And then we moved right into podcast or in the morning. On a Saturday morning. Yes. And just trusting the Lord to move in and through our lives to change others. Yes. Well guys, I just want to say it’s been a privilege for you to listen to us and my brother Rashad, so he is so grateful. Really is my brother and lots of different ways and I just want to encourage you go back and listen through these techniques and tools and resources cause his brother is not just talking. He’s literally living it every single day. You are very welcome brother and for those of you listening you say, Shawn, this is great but I need more. Here’s the great news. Our Edmund Marriage counseling. We have a practice where we marry biblical principles with cutting edge counseling techniques.

I’ve been, I’ll just do marriage counseling. We also help you with anxiety. We do business consulting. We have a whole team of therapists that specialize in parenting and very, really a sundry of different issues and things that usually help with that. Would love to join you in your story today. And if that’s you or a friend, share this podcast with them or go to our website. It’s new vision counseling.live nutrition counseling dot l I v E. And sign up. Call us today, email us, get in touch with us. And the great news is typically within one week, depending on your need and who you want to see, we can get you scheduled and start the process of transforming your life and the Best Premarital Counseling Oklahoma City lives of those you love. Good. So guys, so much for listening. Hey, really it means a lot to me. If you go to our website and he was in counseling that live and check it out, watch the video, share with others and then rate us and review us on Google. I never, Sean likes iTunes right now, like Google because that’s part of how we’re getting the word out. That counseling can change your life. You can change your life if you invite people in. Y’All can do amazing things. Amen. Well guys, God bless and remember creating an amazing day, one decision after another. You guys talk to you next time.